Legrand III SD-10 setup

Kurt Kaltenbach · Post by **Kurt Kaltenbach** » 16 Mar 2002 2:30 pm

I have purchased a Legrande III SD-10(3&4) from a forum member and am anxiously waiting for delivery.The guitar has a day pedal setup and the left knee levers are reversed from the standard Emmons setup(LKL: Lowers 4+8 a half-step,LKR: Raises 4+8 a half-step(split-tuned with pedal 1 on 4th string)).I would like to restore the guitar to a standard Emmons setup when it arrives. Is this something that I can do myself, and if so is there any information around that might help me with this endeavor?
Thanks in advance,KK
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Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 17 Mar 2002 11:01 am

I'm not familiar with the Legrande, but on most guitars the switch from Day to Emmons is pretty straight-forward. For the knee levers, all you have to do is pull out 4 rods, put them back in and tune it up. For the pedals you have to move the bell cranks around a little bit, but it's still no big deal.

Be sure to write down what holes things were in before you start changing things, so that you won't have to experiment with leverages.

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Jon Light (deceased) · Post by **Jon Light (deceased)** » 17 Mar 2002 11:16 am

Hey Kurt--double underline that 'write things down' thing. Any trial & error time wasting you can eliminate is more time for playing.
Do yourself a favor and study up here at Carter's info site--

HERE

and

HERE

--I don't know the Emmons but all modern all-pull guitars bear enough similarity to apply familiarity from one to another.
Enjoy that guitar!

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Bob Carlson · Post by **Bob Carlson** » 18 Mar 2002 8:28 pm

This makes me wonder why all steel guitars don't come a Manual! Carter is the only one i've heard of that does. At least have one you could buy.

Ann, does the Carter Manual cover most of the stuff on all "all pull" steels. If it does, how much does one cost.

Bob.

Jim Smith · Post by **Jim Smith** » 18 Mar 2002 11:06 pm

Carter is the only one i've heard of that does.

Dekleys came with a manual. I wrote it!

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Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 19 Mar 2002 7:12 am

Sierras come with a manual.

Robert Parent · Post by **Robert Parent** » 19 Mar 2002 10:55 am

So did my ZumSteel...

Jeff Peterson · Post by **Jeff Peterson** » 19 Mar 2002 9:41 pm

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Kurt Kaltenbach · Post by **Kurt Kaltenbach** » 20 Mar 2002 10:17 am

Thanks to everyone who responded, and particular thanks to Tony Rankin and Emmons Guitars who both sent me Emmons Legrande III rodding charts. After careful study and writing down the existing configuration I made the changes,switching the A&C pedals and LKL&RKL(from Day to Emmons)knee levers with no problems and no parts left over. It was a great learning experience.b0b was right, it was no big deal.

You can close this thread, the job is done.
Thanks again, Kurt